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heres a very different way of potentially explaining the reason behind the fermi paradox....
pehaps we have been using the wrong techniques
malcolm.mcewen.googlepages.com/th...ion
any comments
GM23
pehaps we have been using the wrong techniques
malcolm.mcewen.googlepages.com/th...ion
any comments
GM23
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Re: its been a while.. but thought this may be of interest
Sat, December 16, 2006 - 8:19 AMIt's certainly possible that civilizations which advance beyond our stage of development use some additional force of Nature that we have not yet discovered as their primary means of communication, and that therefore we aren't detecting their signals. But that still doesn't explain why we can't detect anything that they're doing at all, since some of the actions of an advanced civilization -- flying large starships, modifying the output of their stars, etc. -- would be incredibly obvious even at interstellar distances. It also doesn't explain why we can't detect any radio emissions from civilizations at around <i>our</i> level of development (we've had radio about a century now with little sign of abandoning it, surely at least <i>some</i> other civilizations must keep it about as long). And most of all, it doesn't answer the <i>main</i> Fermi Paradox: "Where are they?" Because advanced civilizations would be able to construct starships, and colonize the whole of our Galaxy.
And yes. They could even bring the soil along with them -- if, at their level of technology, they still needed soil. Hey, <i>I'd</i> bring some -- I <i>like</i> looking at green growing things. -
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Re: its been a while.. but thought this may be of interest
Tue, December 19, 2006 - 7:35 AMWe can't detect any radio signals at our level of development becaue we look at such a small part of the sky and our receivers do not have the sensitivity to detect signals that were not beamed directly at us with massive amounts of power. Like we have tried to target stars that we find "promissing". We still put too much "faith" in the technology we have. -
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Re: its been a while.. but thought this may be of interest
Wed, December 20, 2006 - 8:01 AMThat's certainly possible. On the other hand, it does tell us that radio-transmitting technological civilizations are rare in our corner of the Galaxy.
Mind you, pre- and post-radio technlogical civilizations might be widespread, for all we know. -
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Re: its been a while.. but thought this may be of interest
Wed, December 20, 2006 - 9:41 PM<On the other hand, it does tell us that radio-transmitting technological civilizations are rare in our corner of the Galaxy. >
No it does not mean that at all. The one does not follow from the other. Out lack of receiver or their lack of power does not mean the the near by stars are not awash with aliens with low power cell phones. It does mean they have sent us so little power that our very insensitive receivers hear nothing but the galactic background noise.
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Re: Perhaps there's no paradox...
Wed, December 20, 2006 - 9:39 AM -
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Re: Perhaps there's no paradox...
Wed, December 20, 2006 - 10:26 AMI kinda get the feeling you missed the point.....
a good comparison would be to compare the use of electromagnetic means to communicate over space and between 'dimensions' with the use of verbal communication to communicate between america and africa.....
I would aver you get pretty hoarse......
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Re: Perhaps there's no paradox...
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 5:27 PMwell here it is in animation form...
you might enjoy watching.....
this is parts 1 and 2
www.youtube.com/watch
(youtube.com/watch?v=GlKjIVCOFOU)
www.youtube.com/watch
(youtube.com/watch?v=HGrE6C6fs4o)
theres a part three in production and whilst I promise the story gets even more 'bizzare' I also promise the pictures get nicer.. :-)
(so if you like... subscribe to my youtubes and get notified when I upload it)
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Re: Perhaps there's no paradox...
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 12:46 PM
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