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The Fermi Paradox and Singularities
Robert Pisani
Department of Statistics
University of California
Berkeley, California
robert pisani <r.pisani@mac.com>
There are many billions of galaxies that contain
even more billions of star systems that can support
life. The universe has existed for 13+ billion years,
and the time that humans needed to grow from single
celled creatures to what they are today is just a few
million years, an instant in the life of the universe.
If life is as common as is now thought, we would not
be the first civilization to have arisen in the
universe. Any civilization that has advanced to our
stage must produce radio waves, microwaves, etc. But
we don't find any. Enrico Fermi said, "Where is
everybody?"
It was thought at one point in the 1950's that
nuclear weapons had the potential to end human life on
earth. Knowledgeable insiders assessed the chance of
reaching the 21st Century as "about 50%". Whether or
not such thinking was justified, new technologies like
DNA manipulation and nanotechnology and molecular
manufacturing clearly do have such potential. These
technologies and others could cause extinction of the
human race, and in fact all life on our planet, either
through deliberate application or technical
malfeasance. Following is a framework for beginning
to think rigorously about the Fermi Paradox.
Kurzweil's Law says that technology grows at a
double exponential rate. Denote the level of
technology at time t by yt.
(0) yt = exp(exp(t)).
Given a sequence of times t0 < t1 < t2 < . . .
define
(1) Epoch(n) = the period from tn to tn+1 and
(2) pn = the chance of total annihilation during
Epoch(n)
Assuming that survival chances in different Epochs
are independent, given that a civilization has
survived to the end of Epoch(k-1) and thus the
beginning of Epoch(k), if n „ k the chance that it
will survive until the end of Epoch(n) is:
(3) s(n) = ½ {(1-pi), i = k, n}
And the chance it will survive for an infinite number
of epochs is
(4) lim n ý ƒ s(n) = lim n ý ƒ ½ {(1-pi), i = k, n},
which is greater than 0 if and only if
(5) _ ln (1-pi) converges.
For small p, ln(1-p) ~ - p, so (loosely) for small p,
(5) converges if and only _ pi converges. If (5)
diverges, the probability of ultimate extinction is
1.0.
Let yn = the number of different weapons available at
time n which will cause extinction if used. Certainly
defensive measures against such weapons will also be
available.
If the probability of any given weapon being
applied successfully against all of its defenses in
Epoch(n) is q > 0, then the chance that any given
weapon is not used successfully in Epoch(n) is 1-q,
and the chance that at least one is used successfully,
and the civilization perishes, is pn = 1 - (1-q)x,
where x = yn.
Since ln(1-q) < 0 and yn ý ƒ ,
ln(1 - pn) =ln (1-q)x = x ln(1-q) = yn ln(1-q) ý -
ƒ, and (5) diverges
Suppose that defensive measures yield Epoch(n)
probabilities qn which decline to 0 as n grows larger.
Still, if (5) is to converge, we must have
yn ln(1- qn) ~ - yn qn ý 0.
and to avoid extinction, we must have necessarily (but
not sufficiently)
qn < 1/ yn = 1/exp(exp(n)) for n> n0, some n0
Even more restrictively, we must have
yn qn < 1/n, and thus
qn < 1/nyn = 1/(n exp(exp(n)) for all n larger than
some value.
And so on.
Clearly the qn must decline to 0 very rapidly,
and (0) clearly places an extreme burden on any
program of defense that seeks to avoid the
annihilation of the civilization. Should other
considerations show that such rapid decline is
structurally not possible, (4) will then necessarily
equal 0, explaining the Fermi Paradox.
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Discuss...
Robert Pisani
Department of Statistics
University of California
Berkeley, California
robert pisani <r.pisani@mac.com>
There are many billions of galaxies that contain
even more billions of star systems that can support
life. The universe has existed for 13+ billion years,
and the time that humans needed to grow from single
celled creatures to what they are today is just a few
million years, an instant in the life of the universe.
If life is as common as is now thought, we would not
be the first civilization to have arisen in the
universe. Any civilization that has advanced to our
stage must produce radio waves, microwaves, etc. But
we don't find any. Enrico Fermi said, "Where is
everybody?"
It was thought at one point in the 1950's that
nuclear weapons had the potential to end human life on
earth. Knowledgeable insiders assessed the chance of
reaching the 21st Century as "about 50%". Whether or
not such thinking was justified, new technologies like
DNA manipulation and nanotechnology and molecular
manufacturing clearly do have such potential. These
technologies and others could cause extinction of the
human race, and in fact all life on our planet, either
through deliberate application or technical
malfeasance. Following is a framework for beginning
to think rigorously about the Fermi Paradox.
Kurzweil's Law says that technology grows at a
double exponential rate. Denote the level of
technology at time t by yt.
(0) yt = exp(exp(t)).
Given a sequence of times t0 < t1 < t2 < . . .
define
(1) Epoch(n) = the period from tn to tn+1 and
(2) pn = the chance of total annihilation during
Epoch(n)
Assuming that survival chances in different Epochs
are independent, given that a civilization has
survived to the end of Epoch(k-1) and thus the
beginning of Epoch(k), if n „ k the chance that it
will survive until the end of Epoch(n) is:
(3) s(n) = ½ {(1-pi), i = k, n}
And the chance it will survive for an infinite number
of epochs is
(4) lim n ý ƒ s(n) = lim n ý ƒ ½ {(1-pi), i = k, n},
which is greater than 0 if and only if
(5) _ ln (1-pi) converges.
For small p, ln(1-p) ~ - p, so (loosely) for small p,
(5) converges if and only _ pi converges. If (5)
diverges, the probability of ultimate extinction is
1.0.
Let yn = the number of different weapons available at
time n which will cause extinction if used. Certainly
defensive measures against such weapons will also be
available.
If the probability of any given weapon being
applied successfully against all of its defenses in
Epoch(n) is q > 0, then the chance that any given
weapon is not used successfully in Epoch(n) is 1-q,
and the chance that at least one is used successfully,
and the civilization perishes, is pn = 1 - (1-q)x,
where x = yn.
Since ln(1-q) < 0 and yn ý ƒ ,
ln(1 - pn) =ln (1-q)x = x ln(1-q) = yn ln(1-q) ý -
ƒ, and (5) diverges
Suppose that defensive measures yield Epoch(n)
probabilities qn which decline to 0 as n grows larger.
Still, if (5) is to converge, we must have
yn ln(1- qn) ~ - yn qn ý 0.
and to avoid extinction, we must have necessarily (but
not sufficiently)
qn < 1/ yn = 1/exp(exp(n)) for n> n0, some n0
Even more restrictively, we must have
yn qn < 1/n, and thus
qn < 1/nyn = 1/(n exp(exp(n)) for all n larger than
some value.
And so on.
Clearly the qn must decline to 0 very rapidly,
and (0) clearly places an extreme burden on any
program of defense that seeks to avoid the
annihilation of the civilization. Should other
considerations show that such rapid decline is
structurally not possible, (4) will then necessarily
equal 0, explaining the Fermi Paradox.
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Discuss...
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Re: Avoiding Extinction (X-post)
Thu, March 30, 2006 - 3:43 PMAnd that is probably just the tip of the iceberg; to the possible number of vectors that any equation would possibly incorporate into such an equation…
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Re: Avoiding Extinction (X-post)
Fri, March 31, 2006 - 6:30 AMMike, I think that you need to check the facts in the first paragraph. If the conclusion is based on the statement
"The universe has existed for 13+ billion years,
And the time that humans needed to grow from single
Celled creatures to what they are today is just a few
Million years, an instant in the life of the universe. "
That is not correct. It takes more than a few MILLION years for this process to occur. It required several BILLION years to evolve from single celled creatures to what we are today. This is considerably more than "an instant in the life of the universe".
Life has existed on this planet for several billion years. What could be thought of as "intelligent” life has only been around for a million years at best. From this million years, we have been able to broadcast radio waves for only around 100 years. We have been listening for signals from other life for maybe fifty to sixty years. We could have received signals from only within a radius of fifty to sixty light years from here and only then if we were listening to the right frequency at the right time. Our earliest signals would have only reached to a radius of one hundred light year radius from here. That is a very small part of this galaxy which is in a very large universe.
If we have not heard anything after a few hundred-thousand years of listening that might
Cause me think that there is no other intelligent life, in this galaxy at least, or that it is long gone, or even that is yet to develop.
Having not yet received any signals from elsewhere does not indicate that there is no life elsewhere. It only indicates that there is no other intelligent life close by.
The problem with statistics is that you can prove any thing you to prove unless you have hard numbers to plug into it. I find no fault with the equation but the variables that were used are not provable.
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Re: Avoiding Extinction (X-post)
Thu, July 13, 2006 - 2:16 PMthe problem with all of ths is that its much more simple than that. Etiher a civilization solves the problems of equality, social justice, poverty, and just economics, or their equivalent of the Iraqis and the Palestinians develops nuclear technology in allegory 5 to 10 years from now. The only relevant question for whether a civilization survives any epoch is whether or not they have the technological ability for self destruction and whether or not they have solved the major social problems. In other words, a civlization either ends internal conflict
or it goes extinct from it.
There really are no alternatives.
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