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What will the technology of the future really look like?
What will the civilizations of the future really look like?
What are our possible futures? The best and the worst
most likely outcomes?
Where are we headed? How might we get there?
How would we colonize our solar system in teh next 50 years? Nevermind how improbable that is or all of the things that won't let that happen politically. How would we colonize our Galaxy starting 100 years from
now whether or not we have faster than light propulsion? How could we get to the stars? Realistic
technology for realistic science fiction? I WANT MY SCIENCE FICTION TO BE BELIEVABLE!!!. (dangit)
So? how do we put the modern science back into science fiction? less
tribes.tribe.net/scifiparables
tribes.tribe.net/scifiparables#
What will the civilizations of the future really look like?
What are our possible futures? The best and the worst
most likely outcomes?
Where are we headed? How might we get there?
How would we colonize our solar system in teh next 50 years? Nevermind how improbable that is or all of the things that won't let that happen politically. How would we colonize our Galaxy starting 100 years from
now whether or not we have faster than light propulsion? How could we get to the stars? Realistic
technology for realistic science fiction? I WANT MY SCIENCE FICTION TO BE BELIEVABLE!!!. (dangit)
So? how do we put the modern science back into science fiction? less
tribes.tribe.net/scifiparables
tribes.tribe.net/scifiparables#
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Thu, July 20, 2006 - 9:52 PMThe problem isn't science it is where all the resources are being spent. When the scientists are all working for defense, or security you can't have sci fi unless it is terminator. -
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Fri, July 21, 2006 - 11:29 AMwell, i agree, but i am trying to keep politics and engineering problems in two seperate little
boxes.
i figure if i can solve the engineering problems, the politicians will have to pay attention,
thats the way i see sort of dealing with it.
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Re: sci fi parables
Fri, July 21, 2006 - 11:36 AMWhat we really need are more visionaries and less bureaucrats in the space industry. I joined your tribe, however, since I am ardently in support of making "science fiction" into science fact. Tally Ho!!!
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Fri, July 21, 2006 - 5:05 PM<i figure if i can solve the engineering problems, the politicians will have to pay attention>
Sorry it will take more than that to make the politicians take notice. Like money and votes.
Engineering problems are not he bottleneck I have found that they usually can be solved for realistic goals. i.e. let's not try to solve FTL travel in the next few years but a research program with the budget of say SDI would be a great start to all forms of better propulsion. -
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Fri, July 21, 2006 - 5:29 PMagreed, politics is the bottleneck.
shrug.
so lets just try not to think about anything we can't do because of politics....
(NOT)
The first step in getting somewhere is showing it can be done in theory.
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Fri, July 21, 2006 - 5:34 PM<The first step in getting somewhere is showing it can be done in theory.>
Right. That is why we spent over $100 billion for SDI and have such a pittiful space program?
We have shown we can go to the moon. Where are the moon bases?
The first step is to get rid of politicians and kill all the lawyers (like old Billy said) then start pending the money on making it happen, not just paper on a drawing board. -
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Fri, July 21, 2006 - 5:46 PMThe first step is to get rid of politicians and kill all the lawyers (like old Billy said) then start pending the money on making it happen, not just paper on a drawing board.
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looks carefully to one side....
looks carefulll to the other...
peeps around all corners...
(whispering)
where are ya gonna get this army of people to do all that?
You have to start somewhere.
I agree with you and i am very political against the machine.
i still think the solution is to design the next starfaring civilization,
and then get people interested, and THEN get rid of all the politicians
and lawyers, once everybody agrees with you that they want the starfaring
civilization you've designed.
Now be careful, you never know when agent smith might be lurking.
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Re: sci fi parables
Fri, July 21, 2006 - 9:55 PMAh I'm a mole come with me Mr. Anderson.
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Re: sci fi parables
Fri, August 4, 2006 - 10:53 PM>I still think the solution is to design the next starfaring civilization,
Can you really "design" a civilization, though?
We'll become a starfaring civillization when the imperatives for it (energy?, safety from "local" disaster?) become
sufficiently acute, while the costs come down through better technology... but a "top-down" approach to colonizing space does
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Mon, August 7, 2006 - 9:29 AMI think that "top-down" space expansion only works for limited periods of space and time, because any one agency (government, corporation, international body etc.) can only maintain a given purpose for a certain period of time, after which changing politics changes its goals. Witness NASA, which began on a dream of American manned expansion into space but which, by the 1980's - 1990's, had mutated into an agency which if anything acted to _block_ such expansion.
As a result, long-term human expansion into space has to be by the creation of a technological system under which many agencies can play for many goals. This is in the process of happening, right now, with the widespread construction of spaceports and several major corporate entities interested in operating spacecraft.
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Re: sci fi parables
Mon, August 21, 2006 - 4:06 PMCan you really "design" a civilization, though
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yes, of course we can. Whether or not we can implement whats designed is a different question.
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